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The publication issue: the opinions of EGU early career scientists!

The publication issue: the opinions of EGU early career scientists!

The EGU’s General Assemblies have a long tradition of Great Debates – sessions of Union-wide interest which aim to discuss some of the greatest challenges faced by our discipline. Past topics have included exploitation of mineral resources at the sea bed, water security given an ever growing population and climate geoengineering, to name but a few.  This year’s meeting saw the first Great Debate aimed, specifically, at an Early Career Scientist (ECS) audience which boasted an innovative format too: Should early career scientists be judged by their publication record? A set of group debates. Today’s post, written by Mathew Stiller-Reeve, a convener of the session, summarises some of the main outcomes of the discussion.

We, early career scientists, are told that we need to become expert writers, presenters, and teachers if we are going to make it in the world of research. Many of us agree such transferrable skills are extremely important. But if we invest time in developing these skills, it sometimes feels like time wasted. All said and done, we only seem to be judged on our publication record and our h-index. How many papers have we published in high impact journals, and how often have they been cited?

Early career scientists seem very clued up on transferrable skills. They want to invest in these skills. Therefore, we wanted to hear from them about whether ‘early career scientists [should] be judged mainly on their publication record?’ And so we put this question to them (and others) at a Great Debate at the EGU’s 2017 General Assembly. We also wanted to test out a new format where the audience had the opportunity to voice their opinions about important issues concerning modern academia. The publication issue affects us all, so we should have a say.

With only 8 people at each table and over 40 minutes to debate, everyone had an opportunity to speak their mind and contribute to developing solutions. The room was buzzing with over 100 early career and more established scientists discussing, agreeing, disagreeing, and finding compromises.

In the end, each table was tasked to debate and boil their thoughts down to one or two policy-type statements. These statements will be presented to the EGU Council to inform them of where EGU early career scientists stand on this matter.

So without further ado, here are the conclusions of the tables:

– We need more criteria. Quality is most important, measured by prizes, PhD results and the incorporation of the community via new media.

-More activities need to be taken into account in a measurable way, but according to scaled categories #notjustanumber.

-The current system is cheap, easy and fast. A person should be judged on the broader contributions to society, to their colleagues, to their disciplines. We should move beyond metrics.

-Because scientists are more than a list of publications, assess them individually. Talk to them and read their output, including publications, blogs and chapter/book contributions.

-We should not be judged on publication record alone. We need a multi-variant set of criteria for assessment for judgment of impact beyond just academic publications.

-One suggestion is a weighted metric depending on the position you’re applying for which considers other factors such as teaching, outreach, conference participation etc.

-No, the h-index should not be the sole number, even though it is not a totally useless number.

-Quality should be judged on more than quantity and the large number of authors on publications devaluates the contributions of early career scientists.

-Publications are the accepted way of communication in science, but there is not any one number describing the quality of the early career scientist, whom in our humble opinion should not only be judged on the quantity of papers but also on their quality as a part of a complete set of research skills, including other contributions such as project development.

-We acknowledge the publication record as a reliable metric, but we suggest an additional step for assessing applications, based on video or audio presentations to emphasize your other outstanding qualities.

-We doubt that we are mainly judged on our publication record and we think that publications should be part of what we are judged on.

-When hiring, follow the example of the Medical Department at Utrecht University: only ask for the 3 papers, teaching or outreach experiences you think are important for the position you are applying for: we are more than numbers.

Should they be adopted? Do you agree? How can we adopt them?

The message in many of the statements from the Early Career Scientists at the European Geosciences Union is quite clear: We are more than numbers! Several suggestions arose from the debate: new metrics, video presentations, and even new application processes. Now the statements from the debate are recorded. This will hopefully inspire us (and others) to find better solutions. At the very least, the discussion has begun. Solutions are impossible if we don’t talk!

By Mathew Stiller-Reeve, co-founder of ClimateSnack and researcher at Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research, Norway

Editor’s note: This is a guest blog post that expresses the opinion of its author and those who participated at the Great Debate during the General Assembly, whose views may differ from those of the European Geosciences Union. We hope the post can serve to generate discussion and a civilised debate amongst our readers.

This guest post was contributed by a scientist, student or a professional in the Earth, planetary or space sciences. The EGU blogs welcome guest contributions, so if you've got a great idea for a post or fancy trying your hand at science communication, please contact the blog editor or the EGU Communications Officer Laura Roberts Artal to pitch your idea.

1 Comment

  1. Interesting topic to discuss. A few thoughts.

    1. The question is vague, but that was probably meant to cause debate rather that arrive at a specific answer for a specific context.

    “Should early career scientists be judged by their publication record?” Obviously, this depends upon what the context is. Are they applying for a different job? Are they being considered for a promotion within their existing job? What kind of job is being considered? Are we thinking of the long-term career potential for the person, or for the immediate time?

    If we are considering an academic position at a research-intensive university, then their publication record (quality and quantity of publications) is relevant because that is one metric by which we senior academics are judged by (right or wrong). So, a good start on publishing early in your career is more likely to lead to future success. (Although there are exceptions to this.)

    If we are considering a support-staff role at a research laboratory or a researcher position in the private sector, then maybe. If we are considering an academic position at a teaching-focused university, then maybe.

    Some jobs that early-career researchers may be considering may not require publishing peer-reviewed literature as part of the job at all. For example, consider the case of science editor at some journals, school teacher, or a public engagement specialist. In that case, I wouldn’t worry about keeping your publishing record going.

    2. If we are talking about how early-career researchers can best prepare for a postdoc or an academic position at a research institution, then yes, publication record is important. But, it is not just quantity that matters. At least for me, seeing an applicant with a peer-reviewed publishing record means that this person is already doing what is needed for their success (and my success if they are to be my postdoc). They also have that experience, so I know that I may not have to train them as much into how we publish peer-reviewed literature and what the threshold is for publication. And, of course, quality of those publications is important. I would rather see quality rather than quantity for the sake of quantity.

    3. Of course, if we are considering someone for a position (postdoc or new academic), we look at more than just their publication record. Finding that fit for the job includes the type of research that someone does and whether that aligns with what we’re looking for as employers. That fit also includes the personality. Obviously, you want to work with someone who is easy to get along with and collaborates well with others.

    4. None of this is meant to imply that the quality of an individual can be boiled down to their publication metrics alone. Just like the statistics of an athlete can tell you something about their abilities, it cannot be the whole story. So, early career scientists (or anyone, for that matter) worrying about publication metrics is not useful.

    5. My advice is to focus on what you determine to be excellence for whatever career path you want to have and achieve it. Doing so will make you the most happy and fulfilled. The rest should fall into place eventually for you.

    Prof. David Schultz
    University of Manchester

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