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10 Minute Interview – Life as a Museum Curator

Fridays are hard enough, so we thought we’d help you get through the day with a really interesting 10 minute interview, all you need now is a spare 10 minutes and your favourite hot drink!

This week, we speak to Gillian McCay, assistant curator at the Cockburn Geological Museum at the University of Edinburgh. The museum is a fascinating place to visit, holding over 130,000 specimens as well as other materials. Gillian is proof that an Earth Science background can take you down many employment routes and she is definitely one of those unsung heroes of geology; keeping geological treasures safe and cataloged for future generations of Earth Scientists.

Vital StatisticsGillianMcCay

  • You are: Gillian McCay (PhD) (I don’t call myself Dr… it sounds funny)
  • You work at: School of GeoSciences, University of Edinburgh
  • Your role is: Assistant Curator at Cockburn Geological Museum and Teaching Technician

 

Q1) What are you currently working on?

Several things! During term time I am always busy making sure that the labs and equipment are ready for practical classes – the summer is over and teaching has started! On the Museum side of things I am currently working towards an exhibition based on the theme of a Victorian Cabinet of Curiosities to be held in the University of Edinburgh’s Main Library. This space regularly has exhibits of around 20 – 50 objects… this exhibition will have close to 150 objects – the biggest display the University Collections have shown! – with around 40 specimens from the collection I care for.

 

Q2) What is a typical day like for you?

My day is really variable depending on the time of year. I ALWAYS start by turning on all the cabinet lights in the display cases and checking that nothing is amiss with the objects on show. During term time I then have a tour of the labs to make sure everything is in order there as far as equipment and specimens for teaching go – this can take anything from 10 mins to 40 mins depending on materials required for that day. After that, if everything is going to plan, I will try and get on with some museum projects such as cataloguing some of our collection (the catalogue of our historical collection currently only covers about 6000 of our 60,000 plus objects), doing environmental checks in our storage areas or doing some admin for our museum accreditation.

 

Q3) Does your job allow you to have any academic outputs?

My job doesn’t currently demand that I produce academic papers, but I am interested in developing the skills to publish in Curation Journals such as Geological Curator. I am currently getting a lot of Charles Lyell’s personal papers digitised and hope that these could be the basis of a really interesting project.

 

Q4) What has been the highlight of your career so far? As an early stage researcher where do you see yourself in a few years time?

I have had a few amazing things happen since I started my job last year. I held a small object handling session for a delegation from the European Space Agency, which was great fun. I have also had the shock of finding specimens collected by Charles Darwin during his time on the Beagle that had gotten ‘lost’ in the collection here! As a permanent member of staff I could still be here 10 years from now and although moving to a bigger collection would be interesting I feel quiet attached to the objects I care for in the Cockburn Museum.

 

Q5) To what locations has your research taken you and why?

Currently my Job mostly takes me to Museum Store Rooms, so it’s not that exotic… but some of the things you get to see are amazing!!!

 

Q6) Do you have one piece of advice for anyone wanting to have a career similar to yours?

Get hands on experience… I was lucky and fell into museum/collection work, but if you want to get into it, it’s mega competitive. Some people volunteer for years before finding a paid position so it’s a massive bonus if you can start early and get involved with university collections during your degree.

 

Q7) If you could invent an element, what would it be called and what would it do?

Time-travellum (Tt) – it would power the time machine I would build so I could go back and see amazing geological events.

 

Gillian is originally from Northern Ireland but moved to Scotland as a fresh faced undergrad studying geoscience in St Andrews and later moving to Edinburgh to do a PhD. Although she still thinks of herself as a Field Geologist, these days she mostly chases “free living” rock specimens round the School of GeoSciences Grant Institute making sure they get back to their homes in the cabinets. Gillian enjoys visitors and encourages curious artists and members of the public to come and visit the rocks she cares for.

Reporting on a recent visit to the NERC Radiocarbon Facility (East Kilbride, Scotland)

I (Daniel) recently had the opportunity to visit the Natural Environment Research Council (NERC) Radiocarbon Facility – Environment (NRCF-EK), hosted at the Scottish Universities Environmental Research Centre (SUERC), a collaborative facility between the Universities of Glasgow and Edinburgh. The lab is located in East Kilbride, a 30-minute train ride south of Glasgow city centre.

The opportunity arose via an application I submitted with my Supervisor (Dr Richard Chiverrell) to the NCRF-Steering Committee for funding towards a series of radiocarbon (14C) dates for our lake sediment sequence at Brotherswater, northwest England. The dating rationale was to augment our current chronology in order to confirm the local mining history recorded in the lake sediment sequence (EGU abstract) as well as more confidently temporally correlate individual palaeoflood laminations with known historical floods (EGU abstract). I was delighted to be awarded 14 radiocarbon dates in total and being invited to bring my samples to their lab and observe the preparation procedures and analytical equipment they use seemed an excellent opportunity.

Pauline Gulliver, a Research Associate at the NRCF-EK lab and the manager of our project, kindly picked me up from the train station on Monday morning (Aug 19th). My first morning involved reading detailed Health and Safety briefings, which were by some margin the most interesting paperwork I have ever completed. The repeated mentions of liquid nitrogen, for example, were intriguing as my prior knowledge of its properties was only from movies.

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Photos: Daniel Schillereff

Monday afternoon was more ‘hands-on’ and in fact, by the end of my three-day visit, I had been lucky enough to observe and attempt first-hand each different stage of sample pre-treatment. Callum Murray, the lab technician with whom I was working, was brilliant throughout, explaining each step in detail and with admirable patience. The gas lines (see photo) used for extracting various gases and cryogenically capturing the CO2 were visually impressive (and initially daunting when Callum suggested I attempt a sample myself). But he clearly explained the order in which each valve is turned in order to check for leaks, move gases through the liquid nitrogen and water traps, and measure the total CO2 captured so, in the end, it was great fun and I spent much of Tuesday doing this procedure. Once the sample CO2 is captured it is turned into a form of elemental carbon called graphite and I also watched this being compressed into a graphite pellet. It is this pellet that is subsequently placed on a large diameter tray and inserted into the AMS, enabling the 14C to be measured. I also had the opportunity to put some of my own samples in their Mass Spectrometer, with the help of technician Josanne Newton, in order to measure the ratio of 12C to 13C isotopes, which is used to correct the radiocarbon data for isotopic fractionation.

Torch

An important ‘known unknown’ within my knowledge of radiocarbon sample preparation prior to visiting the lab was how the glass vials containing CO2 are kept absolutely sealed from surrounding air and the possibility of mixing is minimised. Their method is extremely effective: using a butane torch, the narrow stem of the silicon glass vial is made molten and sealed shut (see photo). I had a few attempts with mixed results; another fun yet effective task.

Wednesday lunchtime Pauline and I visited the SUERC AMS lab where their enormous, powerful Accelorator Mass Spectrometer for measuring the carbon isotopes (as well as other selected cosmogenic isotopes) is housed in a purpose-built facility. Upon arrival, Philippa Ascough kindly volunteered her time to provide me with a fascinating guided tour. (On a side note, this demonstrates the power of Twitter as I’ve had one or two Twitter conversations with Philippa in recent months). I honestly cannot recall which aspect was most impressive; the size of the accelerator or the complexity of wiring visible through the casing perhaps. The fact such a large machine is needed when the particles sought to be measured are so small seemed astounding but Philippa’s explanations made this very clear. Truly one of the most impressive machines I’ve ever seen.

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Accelorator

The SUERC Accelorator Mass Spectrometer. Photos used with the kind permission of Philippa Ascough, SUERC AMS Laboratory

I am very grateful to the NRCF-E staff and Philippa Ascough for taking the time out of their undoubtedly busy schedules to provide such an educational experience. I’ve taken a number of lessons from my visit to the NRFC-E lab; for one, it has inspired me to greatly improve my knowledge base of standard chemistry and physics. While the staff provided helpful explanations of the various reactions taking place and equipment being used, a solid understanding of the underlying mechanics can only be acquired through a better personal understanding. My visit confirmed yet again that hands-on, visual experience is undoubtedly the most effective learning tool; I don’t think reading every issue of Radiocarbon plus relevant textbooks could replace the knowledge I acquired during my visit (ignoring the time needed for all that reading!). Most importantly, I feel much more confident to discuss the radiocarbon dating technique in published papers or my viva, when the time comes.

Visiting the NRCF-EK lab was an invaluable experience that I’d recommend to any Early Career Researcher who has successfully been awarded funding from the Steering Committee towards 14C dates.

10 Minute Interview – Jennifer Clear

Our latest 10 Minute Interview is with Jennifer Clear, a fellow PhD student here in the School of Environmental Sciences, University of Liverpool. She is approaching her submission deadline and will soon be leaving to take up a PostDoc position in Prague, Czech Republic. We will be sad to see her go! Jen has kindly helped on a number of my fieldwork expeditions as well as teaching me how to spot (a few) pollen grains and charcoal fragments in my sediment samples.

Her paper ‘Holocene fire frequency variability in Vesijako, Strict Nature Reserve, Finland, and its application to conservation and management’ has recently been published in the journal Biological Conservation and is available here (Open Access!!). (Note to self – I like the graphical abstract idea too, must look into this option further).

Jen in the Swiss Alps (Jungfrau peeking through the clouds)

Jen in the Swiss Alps (Jungfrau peeking through the clouds)

Vital Statistics

 

  • You are: Jennifer Clear (jenclear@liv.ac.uk)
  • You work at: University of Liverpool
  • Your role is: PhD student 

    Q1) What are you currently working on?

    Holocene forest fire disturbance and vegetation dynamics in small forest hollow environments in Finland

    Q2) Could you provide a brief insight into the main findings of your recent paper in Biological Conservation?

    Fire was much less frequent in the forest in Vesijako, Finland prior to intensive anthropogenic disturbance and this human induced increase in fire frequency coincides with a decline in floristic diversity. The dominance of Picea abies(Norway spruce) could be responsible for the current lack of fire and if this remains the case then we could expect much lower frequency, higher intensity fires in the future.

    Q3) As an Early Career Researcher, what has been the highlight of your career so far?

    There are many milestones to reach as a postgraduate researcher and my most recent highlight has to be my first publication. However, before the end of the year I have a new milestone to reach and hopefully my new highlight will be being awarded my PhD.

    Q4) What is a typical day like for you?

    I usually arrive in the office and check emails (and the news) before spending time in the lab or looking down a microscope counting pollen. Data analysis is always ongoing but at this stage of my PhD a lot of time is spent writing. There is always something on the side to arrange whether it be a conference to attend or help organise or fieldwork logistics to sort out. Getting out of the office to have coffee and lunch is an important part of the day as it is a chance to discuss and gain insightful opinions on work progress with other students and academics.

    Q5) To what locations has your research taken you and why?

    Through projects FIREMAN, PRIFOR and LANDCLIM I am grateful to have had the opportunity to attend many small research conferences and field excursions that enabled me to meet and chat with other like minded students and academics. As a boreal palaeoecologist I have been lucky to undertake fieldwork in some amazing places: I have crossed the Arctic Circle in Norway, Sweden and Finland; glimpsed the northern lights in Lappi, Finland; snowshoed through forest to core lakes through the ice (with a spot of ice fishing) in Canada; experienced the mid-night sun while coring lakes from a raft in Sweden; and not to forget, visited many mosquito infested forest hollows, often with a campfire and sauna waiting in the evening.

    Q6) Do you have one piece of advice for new Postgraduates?

    As an incentive to continue onto postgraduate research the opportunities to travel and meet new and likeminded people are amazing but don’t be afraid to go and speak to the professor you referenced several times in your last dissertation – remember he was once where you are now. Day to day this is not a normal 9-5 job, having that ‘Friday feeling’ on a Monday morning not knowing what your next set of results is going to show is motivation enough to keep going.

    Q7) If you could invent an element, what would it be called and what would it do?

    Hindsight (Hi) – a Noble gas that enables a chemical reaction to take place in the brain that links cause and effect. It may help with some current environmental issues.

     

    JENNIFER CLEAR is a physical geographer and palaeoecologist with an interest in long-term forest dynamics and environmental change. Her PhD research focused on fire frequency disturbance in Scandinavia and she will soon expand her research area into central European mountain environments. Jen loves visiting new places and is at her happiest outdoors – regardless of the weather.

Introducing The 10 minute Interview!

The Ten Minute Interview is a feature we will run regularly as part of our blog.

Dan and I feel passionate about promoting the work of Early Career Researchers (ECRs) and also all the people behind the scenes who actually make research happen. The unsung heroes of our labs if you like; technicians and support staff. The key idea is that it shouldn’t take long to read these interviews, you should have enough time to do so whilst you drink your morning coffee or have a quick tea break in the afternoon. The interviewees details are at the bottom of all the posts, so if you find the person particularly interesting, get in touch with them!

Kicking off the ten minute interview feature is Elliot Hurst, one of our lab technicians at the Geomagnetism Laboratory at Liverpool University. Elliot has helped me out with a lot of my research, particularly all the fiddly bits associated with the instruments I use. I should say he is very patient with me and has dug me out of a hole a fair number of times!

Vital Statistics

  • You are: Elliot Hurst (elliot.hurst@liv.ac.uk)Elliot
  • You work at: University of Liverpool Geomagnetism Laboratory
  • Your role is: Laboratory research technician

 

Q1) What are you currently working on? I work simultaneously on a variety of different projects, depending on the demands of the lab and the main ongoing research at the time.  Currently my time is split between carrying out microwave palaeointensity experiments on pottery sherds from the south west Pacific islands and cataloguing, sampling and measuring magnetic remanences on a collection of rhyolites and basalts I helped drill from Scotland.

Q2) What is a typical day like for you? I normally spend most of time using several of the machines in the lab, measuring magnetic remanences or various magnetic properties in different rock or pottery samples.  The rest of my time is divided up amongst making small repairs on the lab equipment, preparing samples for measuring and training visitors and students in the operation of our machines.

Q3) Does your job allow you to have any academic outputs? In a way, yes.  While I don’t write papers myself, the majority of the work I do in the lab contributes significantly to the results shown in papers, and in the next couple of years I am hoping to have my work included in several of them.

Q4)What has been the highlight of your career so far? I’d probably have to say when I went to Lincolnshire, digging up part of an early Iron Age site.  We were involved in helping trying to date the site using archaeomagnetic techniques, and our results may show that the site is one of the earliest examples of iron workings in Britain.  I’m really looking forward to see where my career takes me in the next few years though.  It’s early days yet!

Q5) To what locations has your research taken you and why? I mostly just live in the lab, but I have been to Lincolnshire for a quick excavation of an early Iron Age site, and I recently went to Scotland to help take rock cores from a number of outcrops.

Q6) Do you have one piece of advice for anyone wanting to have a career similar to yours? Keep in contact with your teaching staff after you graduate university.  I would never have known that my position was available unless my lecturers were easily able to contact me.

Q7) If you could invent an element, what would it be called and what would it do? Netherrack from the game “Minecraft”.  I know I’m not inventing it as such, but it would be awesome to have a material in the real word that could burn indefinitely!

 

I am originally from Ramsbottom in Lancashire, and I came to Liverpool in 2006 as an undergraduate student studying geophysics.  Once I graduated, I worked for a year in a customer service centre before starting working for the Geomagnetism Group in 2011.  In my spare time I enjoy hanging out with friends, playing computer games, and spending time outdoors.